Marcus Smith: Put the Task in Front of a Customer - Would They Pay for It?

December 03, 2025 00:38:02
Marcus Smith: Put the Task in Front of a Customer - Would They Pay for It?
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Marcus Smith: Put the Task in Front of a Customer - Would They Pay for It?

Dec 03 2025 | 00:38:02

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Show Notes

Marcus Smith runs CloudTrails, a Salesforce consultancy, and comes at it from an industrial engineering background - designing business processes and stripping out the things customers do not pay for. Asked to describe his deliverable in two sentences, he needed one: "Long term peace of mind in Salesforce." The sharpest thing in this episode is his test for killing work, and how ruthlessly he applies it to his own invoices.

In this episode

"You put this task in front of a customer, would they universally be willing to pay for it?" - Marcus Smith on the only rubric he uses to cut waste
"The first word in change is no. So you roll something out new to 30 people, you hear 27 versions of no and three versions of yes." - Marcus Smith on software rollouts
"Go find something that you can do by yourself that you just have to measure and you can't lie." - Marcus Smith on how running for distance keeps his ego honest as a leader

Connect with Marcus Smith and CloudTrails at cloudtrails.com - he mentions a roughly ten-page Salesforce Truth Report there, built from about 2,100 support tickets, covering what 25-to-100-person companies actually ask for. He is also about to get a lot more active on LinkedIn.

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