SEO & Brand Journalism: A Conversation with Katie Wagner

September 17, 2025 00:35:23
SEO & Brand Journalism: A Conversation with Katie Wagner
The Unscripted SEO Interview Podcast
SEO & Brand Journalism: A Conversation with Katie Wagner

Sep 17 2025 | 00:35:23

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Show Notes

In this episode of the Unscripted SEO podcast, host Jeremy Rivera interviews Katie Wagner, President & CEO of KWSM Digital Marketing Agency. They dive deep into the evolution of SEO, the importance of brand journalism, and how businesses can adapt to the changing digital landscape including AI overviews and LLM-based search.

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Key Topics Discussed

1. The Evolution of SEO

2. Brand Journalism Strategy

3. Revenue-Focused Marketing

4. Near Bound Marketing

5. Case Study: Save Fry Oil

6. PR and Media Relations

7. Content Creation and Distribution

Resources & Tools Mentioned

Companies & Agencies

Podcasts & Content

Industry References

KWSM Resources

Lead Generation & Strategy

Company Information

SEO Arcade Resources

Content Strategy

Key Takeaways

  1. Quality Over Quantity: Focus on fewer, more qualified visitors who convert rather than chasing traffic volume
  2. Brand Journalism: Create deeper stories about your business and customers, not just promotional content. Even local service businesses, such as Story Roofing, can strengthen their authority by publishing authentic, story-driven content.
  3. Revenue Metrics: Track actual revenue generated, not just leads or conversions
  4. Near Bound Marketing: Leverage existing relationships and customer networks for growth
  5. Ecosystem Approach: No single tactic works in isolation; build comprehensive marketing infrastructure
  6. Content Repurposing: Extract maximum value from every piece of content across multiple channels
  7. Business Understanding: Modern marketers must understand profit margins and business fundamentals

Quotes to Remember

"Brand journalism has never been more important. We really lean into that at the agency." - Katie Wagner

"I don't really have ego in those numbers as long as a percentage of it is actually turning into customers for my clients." - Katie Wagner

"Every brand has to be a content creator and they have to be journalists of their own brand." - Katie Wagner

"Gone are the days when one tactic in a vacuum is going to generate all the business you need." - Katie Wagner

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